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Pitfalls , ho!

by Rafi Ahmad Masoodi
Posted on 21 December, 2009

Just a minute ago I encountered this sentence in the English translation of the Holy Kora'an:
"So do they worship something instead of God that can neither benefit you nor harm you?" (Naoudhubillah)
The translator has authored innumerable books in many languages including English.
We come across such sentences quite often.
Here is one more,example:
"The customer showed the fly to the waiter which he found in his cup of soup."
What do we do about such sentences?Do we go to
go? To Grammar or ?

Tags: Pitfalls , ho!

by Leon Wooldridge posted on 21 December, 2009
The only sentence here that's not clear to me is "Do we go to go?" - I certainly dont worry myself about such things as whether the fly was in the soup or the waiter, as it's quite clear on three counts. I can't see much wrogn with the sentence from the Qaran. Do you mean think is should say "... benefit THEM ..." ? If so, then I can't see why.
by Rafi Ahmad Masoodi posted on 22 December, 2009
See I made a mistake and wrote "Do we go to go?" instead of "Do we go to grammar?"It is a typing mistake. What is the result of my carelessness? A well versed friend like Leon is not able to understand a very simple and easy sentence. A silly mistake can't have more devastating effects.
I ,however, could understand what you mean by 'wrogn'. Some people may feel confused and fail to understand!
The same is true of the 'customer-waiter' sentence. You have been able to understand the meaning but does your understanding make the sentence appropriate and grammatically, semantically acceptable. The sentence continues to be unacceptable due to a flaw which is not easy to detect but very common, at least, with students.
My second example proves my point. It needs to be examined. It is not “THEM" as you think. Let's not close it here.
I think we should look at things from the point of view of students. You and I can understand things which are extremely hard for students.
Could you elaborate upon the “three counts", please? ,which help in deciphering the meaning of the 'customer - waiter' example.
I could make it to two , that too after a lot of pulling and dragging.
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